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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by Richardthughes
It's the ID strategy of "twist your concepts against you"
Science is a religion
Atheism is a religion
Darwin of the gaps
etc..
It's the ID strategy of "twist your concepts against you"
Science is a religion
Atheism is a religion
Darwin of the gaps
etc..
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Richardthughes
Quote It would have been nice to treat punctuation marks as words, but I don't happen to have a script on hand that does that.
I'm guessing they have low compressibility given their single character nature? You could perhaps make capitalization at the start of a sentence a rule and then compress that way?
Quote It would have been nice to treat punctuation marks as words, but I don't happen to have a script on hand that does that.
I'm guessing they have low compressibility given their single character nature? You could perhaps make capitalization at the start of a sentence a rule and then compress that way?
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Turncoat
Here's a little shell script for getting word counts (case insensitive) from a text:
Code Sample #!/bin/sh
tr -d "'"___|
tr -cs "[:alpha:]" "\n"__|
tr "[:upper:]" "[:lower:]"_|
sort ____|
uniq -c____|
sort -rn___|
awk '{ cum += $1; print $1, cum, $2; }'
It says that Macbeth contains 18596 instances of 3379 distinct words. Here are the ten most frequent words:
740 740 the
579 1319 and
385 1704 to
368 2072 of
335 2407 i
284 2691 macbeth
253 2944 a
233 3177 that
207 3384 in
202 3586 you
The first column is word frequency, and the second is cumulative frequency. Applying this command
Code Sample awk '{h += $1 / 18596 * -log($1/18596)/log(2)} END{print h}'
to the output, I get per-word entropy of about 9.357 bits. It would have been nice to treat punctuation marks as words, but I don't happen to have a script on hand that does that.
Here's a little shell script for getting word counts (case insensitive) from a text:
Code Sample #!/bin/sh
tr -d "'"___|
tr -cs "[:alpha:]" "\n"__|
tr "[:upper:]" "[:lower:]"_|
sort ____|
uniq -c____|
sort -rn___|
awk '{ cum += $1; print $1, cum, $2; }'
It says that Macbeth contains 18596 instances of 3379 distinct words. Here are the ten most frequent words:
740 740 the
579 1319 and
385 1704 to
368 2072 of
335 2407 i
284 2691 macbeth
253 2944 a
233 3177 that
207 3384 in
202 3586 you
The first column is word frequency, and the second is cumulative frequency. Applying this command
Code Sample awk '{h += $1 / 18596 * -log($1/18596)/log(2)} END{print h}'
to the output, I get per-word entropy of about 9.357 bits. It would have been nice to treat punctuation marks as words, but I don't happen to have a script on hand that does that.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by Erasmus, FCD
holy drooling fucktards this entire thread is one huge circle jerk of idiots trying to out-dumb-fuck the next.
easily the dumbest thing i have read in a while. not even worth it.
holy drooling fucktards this entire thread is one huge circle jerk of idiots trying to out-dumb-fuck the next.
easily the dumbest thing i have read in a while. not even worth it.
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Casey Luskin Thread
Post by afarensis
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 25 2008,23:04)if you are a blogger like ERV or Afarensis feel free to put links to your stuff here. It'll give us more to do. The ID folks haven't been doing much lately.
Here is one...
Notice the dedication...
Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 25 2008,23:04)if you are a blogger like ERV or Afarensis feel free to put links to your stuff here. It'll give us more to do. The ID folks haven't been doing much lately.
Here is one...
Notice the dedication...
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by Erasmus, FCD
In keeping with the genuine stupid oozing from UD...
Quote I think that the single belief that the scientific community places the most warrant on is the belief in methodological naturalism. However, I contend that methodological naturalism itself is absolutely unfalsifiable. As such, it doesn’t even have the protection of a genuine invitation to the world that it be proved wrong.
Just a quick head count. Is there anyone here who thinks "methodological naturalism" is an hypothesis?
tard
In keeping with the genuine stupid oozing from UD...
Quote I think that the single belief that the scientific community places the most warrant on is the belief in methodological naturalism. However, I contend that methodological naturalism itself is absolutely unfalsifiable. As such, it doesn’t even have the protection of a genuine invitation to the world that it be proved wrong.
Just a quick head count. Is there anyone here who thinks "methodological naturalism" is an hypothesis?
tard
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Turncoat
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,20:52)All this experimenting is not very congruent with ID, folks. back to navel-gazing and hand-waving, please.
Have you forgotten how amazingly "creative" one can be with MatLab?
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,20:52)All this experimenting is not very congruent with ID, folks. back to navel-gazing and hand-waving, please.
Have you forgotten how amazingly "creative" one can be with MatLab?
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Richardthughes
All this experimenting is not very congruent with ID, folks. back to navel-gazing and hand-waving, please.
All this experimenting is not very congruent with ID, folks. back to navel-gazing and hand-waving, please.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by afarensis
Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 27 2008,20:38)My apologies, Lou, it was entirely my fault and the product of some sort of insidious mind-meld ray.
I see "BarryA" has the following quote up at UD:
Quote “The beliefs which we have the most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded.”
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (New York: Burt, n.d.), pp. 38-39.
I'm sure that's intended by Barry to indicate something relly, relly profound like " How can we be sure of anything, really?" or "Are you a brain in a vat?"
Odd that he applies it to the beliefs of others, but not to his own beliefs (looks nervously at Lou)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 27 2008,20:38)My apologies, Lou, it was entirely my fault and the product of some sort of insidious mind-meld ray.
I see "BarryA" has the following quote up at UD:
Quote “The beliefs which we have the most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded.”
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (New York: Burt, n.d.), pp. 38-39.
I'm sure that's intended by Barry to indicate something relly, relly profound like " How can we be sure of anything, really?" or "Are you a brain in a vat?"
Odd that he applies it to the beliefs of others, but not to his own beliefs (looks nervously at Lou)
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by afarensis
Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 27 2008,20:33) Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,20:56) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense* ???
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching. :O
Ceiling Lou is ALWAYS watching. Sometimes, he just works in mysterious ways, and talks about himself in the third person.
I've actually just been waiting to see if Flouncy the Martyr returns. At some point, I'll do a big flush. I'm just beat and haven't had the time or the energy lately.
Y'all could save me a lot of time that I could use to study Biology or Precalc if you'd just move this to The Wall voluntarily.
Sigh, all good things must come to an end...I suppose I should apologize to Richardthughes for "encouraging" him...
Quote (Lou FCD @ Aug. 27 2008,20:33) Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,20:56) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense* ???
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching. :O
Ceiling Lou is ALWAYS watching. Sometimes, he just works in mysterious ways, and talks about himself in the third person.
I've actually just been waiting to see if Flouncy the Martyr returns. At some point, I'll do a big flush. I'm just beat and haven't had the time or the energy lately.
Y'all could save me a lot of time that I could use to study Biology or Precalc if you'd just move this to The Wall voluntarily.
Sigh, all good things must come to an end...I suppose I should apologize to Richardthughes for "encouraging" him...
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by deadman_932
My apologies, Lou, it was entirely my fault and the product of some sort of insidious mind-meld ray.
I see "BarryA" has the following quote up at UD:
Quote “The beliefs which we have the most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded.”
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (New York: Burt, n.d.), pp. 38-39.
I'm sure that's intended by Barry to indicate something relly, relly profound like " How can we be sure of anything, really?" or "Are you a brain in a vat?"
My apologies, Lou, it was entirely my fault and the product of some sort of insidious mind-meld ray.
I see "BarryA" has the following quote up at UD:
Quote “The beliefs which we have the most warrant for, have no safeguard to rest on, but a standing invitation to the whole world to prove them unfounded.”
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (New York: Burt, n.d.), pp. 38-39.
I'm sure that's intended by Barry to indicate something relly, relly profound like " How can we be sure of anything, really?" or "Are you a brain in a vat?"
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by Richardthughes
*Points at afarensis*
He made me do it.
That and FtK's Lappy for being brokened.
*Points at afarensis*
He made me do it.
That and FtK's Lappy for being brokened.
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by Richardthughes
SHUT UP AND LISTEN CAUSE I'M TALKIN.
YOU COUD HAVE BEAN A SOMEONE. YOU COULD HAVE GOT IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH TEH DESIGN REVOLUTION. YOU COULD HAVE BEEN MY MIGNON. BUT YOU BLUE IT. WITH YOUR EH? PIORY COMMITMENT TO NATUARILSMS.
YOU BRO^WN, SM^ELLY, SLIME^Y, WURM RIDDE^N HOM^O LO^G.
SHUT UP AND LISTEN CAUSE I'M TALKIN.
YOU COUD HAVE BEAN A SOMEONE. YOU COULD HAVE GOT IN ON THE GROUND FLOOR WITH TEH DESIGN REVOLUTION. YOU COULD HAVE BEEN MY MIGNON. BUT YOU BLUE IT. WITH YOUR EH? PIORY COMMITMENT TO NATUARILSMS.
YOU BRO^WN, SM^ELLY, SLIME^Y, WURM RIDDE^N HOM^O LO^G.
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by Lou FCD
Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,20:56) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense* ???
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching. :O
Ceiling Lou is ALWAYS watching. Sometimes, he just works in mysterious ways, and talks about himself in the third person.
I've actually just been waiting to see if Flouncy the Martyr returns. At some point, I'll do a big flush. I'm just beat and haven't had the time or the energy lately.
Y'all could save me a lot of time that I could use to study Biology or Precalc if you'd just move this to The Wall voluntarily.
Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,20:56) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense* ???
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching. :O
Ceiling Lou is ALWAYS watching. Sometimes, he just works in mysterious ways, and talks about himself in the third person.
I've actually just been waiting to see if Flouncy the Martyr returns. At some point, I'll do a big flush. I'm just beat and haven't had the time or the energy lately.
Y'all could save me a lot of time that I could use to study Biology or Precalc if you'd just move this to The Wall voluntarily.
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by afarensis
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense*
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,19:34)no, singularities are *uncommonly dense*
I blame you for encouraging me.
Well, I did,but you just said it on the wrong thread. You should have said it here on the FTK thread. Where...nobody...is...watching.
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Uncommonly Dense Thread 2
Post by stevestory
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,18:43) Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 27 2008,15:24)Stevestory retreated -- possibly to huddle in shock over my awesome attack, or possibly to drink a yoo-hoo and vodka (my own invention which I have whimsically dubbed the "poodriver" )
Don't laugh. Steve will probably try that tonight. :O
That is, provided the toadstools haven't already killed him.
no that sounds disgusting and the name is stupid. Here's what I'll be drinking later:
Michelob Ultra with Tuscan Orange & Grapefruit.
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Aug. 27 2008,18:43) Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 27 2008,15:24)Stevestory retreated -- possibly to huddle in shock over my awesome attack, or possibly to drink a yoo-hoo and vodka (my own invention which I have whimsically dubbed the "poodriver" )
Don't laugh. Steve will probably try that tonight. :O
That is, provided the toadstools haven't already killed him.
no that sounds disgusting and the name is stupid. Here's what I'll be drinking later:
Michelob Ultra with Tuscan Orange & Grapefruit.
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by Richardthughes
no, singularities are *uncommonly dense*
I blame you for encouraging me.
no, singularities are *uncommonly dense*
I blame you for encouraging me.
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Turncoat
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,18:35)They have compressed it to "bac flag", though. Progress!
???
I saw "BF" yesterday. You may see that as further progress, but I say that when the information content of the message is zero, the waste of bandwidth is infinite.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,18:35)They have compressed it to "bac flag", though. Progress!
???
I saw "BF" yesterday. You may see that as further progress, but I say that when the information content of the message is zero, the waste of bandwidth is infinite.
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Complexity vs. Information
Post by Turncoat
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 27 2008,17:55)Turncoat,
That's kind of what I was getting at in my post last night.
Henry
Yep. Hadn't read that far yet.
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 27 2008,17:55)Turncoat,
That's kind of what I was getting at in my post last night.
Henry
Yep. Hadn't read that far yet.
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UnReasonable Kansans thread
Post by afarensis
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,11:40) Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,07:06) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 26 2008,22:03)Just don't say b^rown or smell^y.
Say, uh, is that a nanny filter or just a homo log
THOUGHT-CRIME, THOUGHT-CRIME!!!1
take him to bathroom101.
Since the ostensible subject of this thread has disappeared on a flounce of mass contradiction and confusion, we are kind of on our own. This combined with the massive gravitational attraction of Louis' ass has caused a distortion in the space time continuum and has caused a bending of the rules. Unfortunately, the immanent collapse of the thread into the blackhole of Louis has caused some to flee lest they see the insane horror of his naked singularity.
Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 27 2008,11:40) Quote (afarensis @ Aug. 27 2008,07:06) Quote (Richardthughes @ Aug. 26 2008,22:03)Just don't say b^rown or smell^y.
Say, uh, is that a nanny filter or just a homo log
THOUGHT-CRIME, THOUGHT-CRIME!!!1
take him to bathroom101.
Since the ostensible subject of this thread has disappeared on a flounce of mass contradiction and confusion, we are kind of on our own. This combined with the massive gravitational attraction of Louis' ass has caused a distortion in the space time continuum and has caused a bending of the rules. Unfortunately, the immanent collapse of the thread into the blackhole of Louis has caused some to flee lest they see the insane horror of his naked singularity.
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